Tips For Buying And Selling At Digital Point

Chris Bibey wrote a post yesterday about avoiding scams at Digital Point. For those of you that don’t know, Digital Point is a very popular webmaster forum where people from all over come together to talk about websites, offer advice and try to fleece unsuspecting souls out of their money.

As I said in my comment on Chris’ post, Digital Point is “one of the dirtiest corners of the Internet.”

Digital Point

It’s also one of my favorite sites on the web.

Even though Digital Point is sort of a den of thieves there are some money making opportunities there. I spend a lot of time in the Buy, Sell or Trade section looking at sites for sale (all the time I was wasting doing this was actually the impetus for building Web Auctions Daily). There are also a lot of great opportunities to find freelancers to outsource your extra work to.

I’ve had some experience both buying and selling things on Digital Point so I’ve put together some tips for people looking to get their feet wet over there.

Buying

  • First off, the old expression “buyer beware” applies triple-time at Digital Point. If you get scammed or ripped off you have no one to blame but yourself. There are systems in place to give scammers bad reviews but it’s by no means a fool proof system and it doesn’t get your money back.
  • Avoid the “get rich quick” schemes and ebooks. The only people that get rich with those are the people selling them. Use your head here. If someone is really making $300 a day doing no work then why are they wasting their time trying to sell their secrets to you for $4.99?
  • Do your research. This applies to buying sites, links or hiring freelancers. Make sure the traffic and AdSense stats are legit as well as the PageRank. This is especially true when buying links. Again, use your head, if someone is selling permanent PR 5 links for $5 it’s probably bogus. If you’re hiring a freelancer make sure to see their portfolio and work out payment before any work gets started.

Selling

  • A lot of people post sites, templates, domains, etc. for sale by starting a brand new thread that quickly gets buried under the pile. One neat trick I’ve learned when I’m selling something is to search the particular section I’m thinking about posting in with the term “WTB” (that’s short for: Want To Buy) and see if anyone has asked in the past for something I’m offering. That’s a simple way to fish out potential buyers.
  • Be prepared to be insulted. Everyone is guilty of overvaluing whatever it is they have. Your first offers on your sale will probably make you cringe. You can either ignore them or take them into consideration. You won’t get much love if you berate the person who made a low bid though so try and keep your cool.
  • Chris touched on this in his post but if you’re a freelancer please, for the love of all that’s good, do not give work away for free. Anyone who wants sample work is just looking to get something for nothing. That’s how the scammers get you.

I’ve droned on long enough. The thing I want to stress is that with some common sense and due diligence you can get a lot out of Digital Point. Be smart and play it safe so you have a good chance of having a nice experience.

February 12th, 2008 | Freelancing, Money, Outsourcing | 3 Comments

An Interview With Freelance Writer Chris Bibey

Since I’ve been doing more and more guest posts as of late I’ve been formulating questions in my mind about freelance writing. I thought it would be good to interview a well-established freelance writer to get some of answers to those questions. Chris Bibey was kind enough to take some time out of his day to lend me a hand and tell us a bit about his freelance writing career.

You had a pretty successful freelance writing career before you launched your blog, correct? Do you feel like your blog has helped your career? If so, in what way?

Yes, that is correct. Before I started my blog, I was already working as a freelance writer for a couple of years. With that being said, my blog helped me in two ways:

  1. It allowed me to share my knowledge with others; which I take a lot of pride in.
  2. My blog has brought in a few new clients which is always a good thing. While I do not actively pursue clients via my blog, I do receive inquiries from time to time.

What have been the downsides to maintaining the blog?

The main downside of maintaining my blog is the time that it takes. Although I only post once per day, I spend a lot of time making sure that the information is accurate and useful.

Would you recommend other writers that are starting their freelance careers, or even those who are firmly established, start their own blogs?

Yes, I would. I think that a blog is a great way to connect with other writers, as well as bring in some extra work if they so desire. It is not easy to update a freelance writing blog everyday of the week, but it is a lot of fun nonetheless.

What niches do you think are the hottest for freelance writers to get into
at the moment?

This is a tough question becausethere is work to be had across hundreds of niches. Personally, I focus on the topics that are of the most interest to me; not what is hot at the moment. My best advice for an aspiring freelance writer would be to focus on three topics that excite them; even if the markets are saturated. When you are passionate about your writing, you have a much better chance of success!

Are you seeing an increase in the number of job requests from web developers, affiliate marketers or other blog owners as of late?

As each month goes by, it seems as if I receive more requests for my writing services, partnerships, etc. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that my name is making its way around the blogosphere a bit more.

What are your thoughts on pay rates for those types of jobs? It seems that any rate you can offer can be beaten soundly by non-English speaking workers offering their services on job boards online. Does that increase in competition and, presumably, quality bother you?

You are 100 percent correct. There are a lot of non-English writers who will work for less than one cent per word. Obviously, it can be difficult to compete with them because of the descrepancy in price. By offering higher quality work, I can attract high level clients that are willing to pay the industry standard or more.

I do find it bothersome that so many poor quality writers are taking money from clients. The only way to put an end to it is for clients to stop shopping for content based on price, and instead focus on quality.

I know you’ve mentioned branching out your focus to other things besides freelance writing. How are those efforts coming along?

They are coming along quite nicely. At this time, I am working on several other projects including a freelance writing course, as well as a blog network that is growing by the month. For me, expanding my focus allows for increased income as well as a break from the freelance writing world.

Since I’m all about web development and WordPress lately let’s end on that. You’ve had a bad experience with a WordPress designer… Do you have any brief advice for anyone looking to hire a designer to rework their blog theme?

Sure do! When I hired a designer a few months back for a new theme, I made one major mistake: I did not ask for enough samples. I received maybe one, and figured that would be enough. Anybody who is going to hire a designer should get a solid feel for what they have accomplished in the past. One quality sample is not enough!

I want to thank Chris again for taking the time to answer my questions. His blog on freelance writing can be found at chrisblogging.com.

January 28th, 2008 | Freelancing, Interviews, Outsourcing | 0 Comments

You’re A Web Developer, Not Tech Support

I have a handful of posts on this site about tech support problems I’ve solved for clients. I write these posts because I usually have a hard time finding the solutions to the problems online and hope that maybe it’ll be easier for the next person who has trouble to find help. These posts are actually some of the most popular on the site and they receive a lot of visitors coming from search engines.

What’s that got to do with being a Web Developer?

It’s important to remember that just because you know how to build web sites does not mean you can or should fix any of your client’s computer problems. I promise you that the second you fix one of their problems with a printer, an email client or whatever they’ll be on you every time something goes wrong in their office. That’s fine if you’re charging them through some kind of service contract but never do this kind of work for free.

People who work for free get taken advantage of.

There’s definitely an urge to fix small problems for free or to go that extra step above and beyond what you originally agreed to with a client. I understand that and I’ve certainly done the same before but I know through experience that once you take on the two-headed role of Web Designer and Go-To Tech Support Guy your life will become miserable.

The only support requests you should ever handle are ones that are directly related to any of the programming or design work you’ve done for the client under your original contract. Extra support requests come at a huge price concerning your time. This is why I recommend against providing hosting solutions for clients as well.

Word Of Mouth Is Your Key To Freelance Success

I stumbled into freelancing pretty much by chance. While I was in college, working on a Computer Science degree, I would get local contract jobs here and there for a variety of clients with no real relation to each other except for one thing: they had all been referred to me by someone they knew. With each successful job I was generating more and more word of mouth about what I could do and it was leading directly to more leads. I never actively advertised any of my services and yet people were managing to find me.

My very first big time project after I graduated was with an area minor league baseball team. I heard they were taking bids on a re-design of their site and its content management system so I wrote a proposal, had a meeting and won the bid. After the new site was completed and launched I began receiving quote requests out of the blue from people who had either seen the site or had been referred to me by the team’s staff. One project eventually snowballed into the majority of my current client base.

i am jack’s client tree

I put together this dopey little graphic to help illustrate my point that you can take one successful job and spin into a lot of future work with a little bit of luck and good word of mouth. As a freelancer, you’re more than capable of making a living bidding on job after job but once people start talking about your skills your reliance on job boards will begin to dwindle away.

December 28th, 2007 | Freelancing | 2 Comments

Guest Post On Mixed Market Arts

I have a guest post up on Collin LaHay’s Mixed Market Arts called Four Tips For Hiring Freelance Web Developers that some of you might be interested in reading.
Mixed Market ArtsThis post is written from the other side of the fence that I usually stand on. The tips can also be useful for any web developers or designers looking to outsource some of their extra work but the main focus is on non-technical folks looking to hire freelancers.